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« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2009, 11:34:22 AM » |
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good figures John.
what kind of conversion rates do you get (ie clients) from that? at 1 in 1000 you must still be getting 15 to 20 new clients a month? I think it will not help you when I say number of visitors that converted, since the quality of our services is not affordable for everyone. For example we build static web sites starting at 3,700 Euro, ecommerce sites starting at 4,400 Euro, PageRank Siloing services starting at 1,100 Euro, Tele-SEO (90 minutes telephone consultation) 560.00 Euro, Web Site Usability Evaluation starting at 1,200 Euro, Contextual Blog Post Links, starting at 460.00 Euro per month, Press Release Marketing, starting at 385.00 Euro per release, Article Marketing, starting at 460.00 Euro per month, Social Media Marketing, starting at 1,150.00 Euro per month, Video Search Marketing starting at 1,030.00 Euro per month, (all link building campaigns minimum 3 months), Content Development & Linkbait, starting at 3,070.00 Euro per project etc. I can only tell that we have the last 6 months almost triple income that we had a year ago the same period. And we cannot take 15-20 projects a month. We are full-booked for web design and ecommerce project until end of July. For SEO we still have space for new projects. Makes sense? |
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« Reply #75 on: April 03, 2009, 11:34:22 AM » |
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« Reply #76 on: April 03, 2009, 01:18:12 PM » |
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yes of course. always nice to put your prices high and be able to pick and choose  maybe you should be targeting more corporate-type phrases and your specific client profile rather than numbers then. and not-so-seriously, here's a brilliant tool I found for brainstorming corporate speak phrases Corporation Speak (Bull**** generator)That tool rules! Thanks for sharing. |
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« Reply #77 on: April 03, 2009, 01:23:49 PM » |
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ah but is it? or is it evidence of something else entirely? toolbar cant be trusted. our blog got put down to PR3 yesterday and it does this. http://www.google.com/search?q=google+upgrade+tool&pws=0&hl=en&num=10what do you think? look who's below us. look at the PR of our post. to me this is not evidence of awesome onsite optimisation? I fully agree. That is the evidence that off-page optimization is not the miracle when it comes to rankings. |
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« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2009, 02:22:55 PM » |
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to me this is not evidence of awesome onsite optimisation?
For me it is. That means if you have a good on-page optimization and very low PR, you can still beat a bad on-page optimized page/site with a huge PR. |
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« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2009, 04:35:13 PM » |
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to me this is not evidence of awesome onsite optimisation?
For me it is. That means if you have a good on-page optimization and very low PR, you can still beat a bad on-page optimized page/site with a huge PR. hmm. we will see. someone from Google just came straight to the post and spent 2 mins 30s there. if we're catapulted downwards shortly we'll know it wasn't the onsite wont we, becaise its been there since July. |
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« Reply #80 on: April 04, 2009, 10:06:15 AM » |
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I suppose if asked, I would actually put this down to the raw SEO power of a properly configured WP setup, internal linking & config strategies, and ongoing targeted content creation strategy (plus of course plenty of real PR floating about) so if that's what you mean by "on-page optimisation" then maybe so, but it's more about site structure , setup and ongoing operational tactics than using h1 tags in the right places i know that  to me this is not evidence of awesome onsite optimisation?
For me it is. That means if you have a good on-page optimization and very low PR, you can still beat a bad on-page optimized page/site with a huge PR. |
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« Reply #81 on: April 04, 2009, 10:12:45 AM » |
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btw this is a dofollow blog we're talking about here, why isnt all my PR leaking away leaving me unable to rank for anything?
we dont use any fancy robots.txt tricks to hoard PR or anything.
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« Reply #82 on: April 05, 2009, 01:17:14 AM » |
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btw this is a dofollow blog we're talking about here, why isnt all my PR leaking away leaving me unable to rank for anything?
we dont use any fancy robots.txt tricks to hoard PR or anything.
With outbound links you do not leak PR. |
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« Reply #83 on: April 05, 2009, 04:05:14 PM » |
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not sure I get you John? maybe we have a misunderstanding over the term "leak" ?
you dont leak it, but you give away a percentage to other sites that you could redirect inwardly?
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« Reply #84 on: April 06, 2009, 02:25:03 AM » |
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not sure I get you John? maybe we have a misunderstanding over the term "leak" ?
you dont leak it, but you give away a percentage to other sites that you could redirect inwardly?
You do not give any percentage away to another web site. Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs. If you have one OBL it gets all that PR. If you have more than one OBLs, the juice will be divided and shared accordingly. If I block a redirect though my robots.txt, you tell Google not to follow it, but still Google can decide if they want to follow and pass PR or not. But in such case you are safe and will not be penalized even if the links were paid. Was that what you wanted to know? |
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« Reply #85 on: April 06, 2009, 08:42:32 AM » |
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this is not my understanding of how it works, how do you know this John? if it's true it's fairly big news isnt it? I (and I think most people's) understanding (or assumption might be a better word) of how it works is that Google assign a PR to a page, and divide that PR between all links leaving the page whether internal or external? you are saying that if I can have 20 links on my homepage, 19 of them external and one inbound and the rest of my site wouldn't suffer from the PR going elsewhere, then yes this is news to me. not sure I get you John? maybe we have a misunderstanding over the term "leak" ?
you dont leak it, but you give away a percentage to other sites that you could redirect inwardly?
You do not give any percentage away to another web site. Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs. If you have one OBL it gets all that PR. If you have more than one OBLs, the juice will be divided and shared accordingly. Was that what you wanted to know? |
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« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2009, 08:54:35 AM » |
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That was always my understanding as well. So does every page have a pre-assigned amount of PR sat waiting for outbound links to appear? So it doesnt matter if we have no external links on the page that PR will be sat there waiting?
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« Reply #87 on: April 06, 2009, 09:17:51 AM » |
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I thought we already cleared this one up?
A page with IBLs passing PR has PR whether it has OBLs or not. It has the same PR whether it has 1 OBL or 1000 OBLs.
PR is not a big ranking signal so why worry about it? Relevance will always beat PR in the SERP. I'll take context relevant links over high PR links anyday, they're usually easier to get anyway.
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« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2009, 09:29:32 AM » |
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We know the PR of the page doesnt change if it has more outbound links but what johns suggesting is that "Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs." So johns saying that google groups internal and external links when calculating the pr distribution from a page and treats them differently.
PR is still worth worrying about because a link on a high pr page does do more for you than a lower pr page. I see this time and time again. I pick up a link for a client on a highly relevant site with little pr and the rankings dont change but i pick up a link on a high pr site with less relevance and i see improvements. I dont think google are as on the ball with just rewarding relevance as much as they preach.
PR is also a key factor in whether a page hits the supplementals.
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« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2009, 10:18:16 AM » |
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We know the PR of the page doesnt change if it has more outbound links but what johns suggesting is that "Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs." So johns saying that google groups internal and external links when calculating the pr distribution from a page and treats them differently.
PR is still worth worrying about because a link on a high pr page does do more for you than a lower pr page. I see this time and time again. I pick up a link for a client on a highly relevant site with little pr and the rankings dont change but i pick up a link on a high pr site with less relevance and i see improvements. I dont think google are as on the ball with just rewarding relevance as much as they preach.
PR is also a key factor in whether a page hits the supplementals.
Karma +1. I wish I could have gave more brother. |
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