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« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2009, 11:55:41 AM »

"pagerank through anchor text" still definitely works for rankings. links need not be relevant to add value, however relevant ones do seem to be much stronger nowadays, and the pagerank through anchor text effect is possibly fading a little of late.

John where did you get this theory, is it your own?



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« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2009, 01:14:56 PM »

"pagerank through anchor text" still definitely works for rankings. links need not be relevant to add value, however relevant ones do seem to be much stronger nowadays, and the pagerank through anchor text effect is possibly fading a little of late.

John where did you get this theory, is it your own?




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« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2009, 01:51:07 PM »

We know the PR of the page doesnt change if it has more outbound links but what johns suggesting is that "Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs." So johns saying that google groups internal and external links when calculating the pr distribution from a page and treats them differently.

I see.  In what way is he saying that they treat them differently? 

PR is still worth worrying about because a link on a high pr page does do more for you than a lower pr page. I see this time and time again. I pick up a link for a client on a highly relevant site with little pr and the rankings dont change but i pick up a link on a high pr site with less relevance and i see improvements. I dont think google are as on the ball with just rewarding relevance as much as they preach.

PR is also a key factor in whether a page hits the supplementals.

Well we'll have to disagree on that one, I think that whilst PR does help, it's a lot easier to get several low PR context relevant links than one high PR context relevant link so I'll take the path of least resistance for now, plus, if Google do get more 'on the ball' with relevance then my links will only increase in value.
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« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2009, 01:58:40 PM »

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I see.  In what way is he saying that they treat them differently?
 

Not sure really... no further details from john yet? Think he just means that no matter what, a page always has a stock of pagerank reserved for outbound links. Not sure if i agree yet as i dont see how google could do that? Surely that would result in masses of wasted pagerank?
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« Reply #94 on: April 06, 2009, 02:12:04 PM »

Not sure if i agree yet as i dont see how google could do that? Surely that would result in masses of wasted pagerank?
I will try to explain hoping that we will not fall in a loop again.

Page A links to Page B. Page B does not have any links, and if it has, they are condomized with the "nofollow" attribute, or it had not meta robots tag "nofollow".

That said, Page B is a dead end, commonly known as a dangling page. So what?

If you forgot, a hint: Do you remember what Wige said about that at WPW?
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« Reply #95 on: April 06, 2009, 02:19:51 PM »

... if Google do get more 'on the ball' with relevance then my links will only increase in value.
I am looking so much forward. And I smell that it is on the way. I think latest end of this Summer we will see significant changes in the SERPs behavior and rankings.

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« Reply #96 on: April 06, 2009, 02:38:52 PM »

heh, I don't John.

http://www.google.com/search?q=onsite+seo&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

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« Reply #97 on: April 06, 2009, 02:44:15 PM »

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You do not give any percentage away to another web site. Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs. If you have one OBL it gets all that PR. If you have more than one OBLs, the juice will be divided and shared accordingly.

What you dont make clear in the above is whether you mean OBL as just any link on a page or do you mean off site links - which is what we were talking about?
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« Reply #98 on: April 06, 2009, 03:33:46 PM »

heh, I don't John.

http://www.google.com/search?q=onsite+seo&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

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Hey thanks a lot buddy!:)

I can offer you a free followed link in my web directory www.seosearchbot.com

If interested, PM me with a title, description and keywords.

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« Reply #99 on: April 06, 2009, 03:36:43 PM »

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You do not give any percentage away to another web site. Google assigns for each page a quantity of PR for OBLs. If you have one OBL it gets all that PR. If you have more than one OBLs, the juice will be divided and shared accordingly.

What you dont make clear in the above is whether you mean OBL as just any link on a page or do you mean off site links - which is what we were talking about?
Just any internal or external outbound link.
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« Reply #100 on: April 06, 2009, 03:46:45 PM »

Aaaah. OK. Can i have a link please?!  angel
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« Reply #101 on: April 06, 2009, 07:05:52 PM »



actually it was freely given and I wasnt wanting a link in return, but..

given that's a nice directory, and I just found this..   Smiley

http://www.google.com/search?q=advanced+onsite+seo&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

I think I'll take you up on that..

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« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2009, 10:34:42 AM »


given that's a nice directory, and I just found this..   Smiley

http://www.google.com/search?q=advanced+onsite+seo&pws=0&hl=en&num=10

I think I'll take you up on that..

I think you should go on thinking...  laugh
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« Reply #103 on: May 12, 2009, 10:36:46 PM »

I am sure that it is not possible to be more clear than here: http://www.searchenginejournal.com/bot-herding-pagerank-sculpting/10352/  Cool
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« Reply #104 on: June 07, 2009, 09:36:20 PM »

Aaaah. OK. Can i have a link please?!  angel
PM me URL, title, description and keywords. Smiley
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