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« on: July 24, 2008, 09:43:09 AM »

We've had alot of new members join recently so i thought i'd introduce the allinanchor: command in Google to you all.

What the hell is the Allinanchor command? I hear you asking.


Its simply another method of searching Google that can be very useful for SEO in at least 2 ways.

How do we carry out an allinanchor search?

Simple instead of searching Google using your keywords like 'SEO Forum'

You search like this 'allinanchor:SEO Forum'

What do these results mean?

Simply the all in anchor command tells you exactly what it says on the tin, it shows you the sites that Google thinks (knows) have the most anchor text links with your keywords contained.

In our example given this site has the 3rd most links using the keywords 'SEO Forum'

What use is this?

Look closely at the results of a regular search and an allinanchor search, what do you notice?

There is often a distinct correlation between the two sets of results. Often if your linking building your notice your site appear in the allinanchor results first and then follow awhile later in the regular results, there is nearly always a little time lag.

The second use is of course to see who your competitors are when you are starting out your link building programme.

Of course its not merely a case of building a shed load of anchor text links for one keyword, everything you do needs to appear natural to Google. A site with 100 links based around a single keyword or phrase will show in the allinanchor results but it not likely to rank highly for a regular search.
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« on: July 24, 2008, 09:43:09 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 11:43:22 PM »

Important information.  The Google search operators can be very usefull.  You find a lot of related resources if you click the link in my signature and then SurfToolBar (7th link in the right menu).
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« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2008, 04:56:12 AM »

We've had alot of new members join recently so i thought i'd introduce the allinanchor: command in Google to you all.

What the hell is the Allinanchor command? I hear you asking.


Its simply another method of searching Google that can be very useful for SEO in at least 2 ways.

How do we carry out an allinanchor search?

Simple instead of searching Google using your keywords like 'SEO Forum'

You search like this 'allinanchor:SEO Forum'

What do these results mean?

Simply the all in anchor command tells you exactly what it says on the tin, it shows you the sites that Google thinks (knows) have the most anchor text links with your keywords contained.

In our example given this site has the 3rd most links using the keywords 'SEO Forum'

What use is this?

Look closely at the results of a regular search and an allinanchor search, what do you notice?

There is often a distinct correlation between the two sets of results. Often if your linking building your notice your site appear in the allinanchor results first and then follow awhile later in the regular results, there is nearly always a little time lag.

The second use is of course to see who your competitors are when you are starting out your link building programme.

Of course its not merely a case of building a shed load of anchor text links for one keyword, everything you do needs to appear natural to Google. A site with 100 links based around a single keyword or phrase will show in the allinanchor results but it not likely to rank highly for a regular search.

This method, is  this a white hat or a black hat SEO method?
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2008, 06:59:42 AM »

Its just a way of searching Google.

Normal searchers might (will) just carry out a normal search for keyword, somemight even search like "keyword phrase"

SEO's and anyone else interested might search with allinanchor:keyword

There is nothing black, white, pink or grey hat about it, it does'nt effect your site in any way!
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2008, 08:15:34 AM »

Related SEO thread here: http://www.webproworld.com/search-engine-optimization-forum/71425-allinanchor-question.html#post389381
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« Reply #5 on: August 08, 2008, 01:55:03 AM »

Its just a way of searching Google.

Normal searchers might (will) just carry out a normal search for keyword, somemight even search like "keyword phrase"

SEO's and anyone else interested might search with allinanchor:keyword

There is nothing black, white, pink or grey hat about it, it does'nt effect your site in any way!

Oh its just another way of searching.. Its not a type of link building of some sort, right?
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« Reply #6 on: August 08, 2008, 02:19:18 PM »

I've not explored allinachor (yet) but my team have been researching intitle: and inanchor: searches. Going through the returned results manually we've found them to be returning less than reliable results - about 60% accuracy (meaning 40% of returned results did not have the keywords in the title or anchor text respectively).
I'll get someone to do the same with allinachor: and report back, but I'm not optimistic.
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2008, 03:00:35 PM »

I've not explored allinachor (yet) but my team have been researching intitle: and inanchor: searches. Going through the returned results manually we've found them to be returning less than reliable results - about 60% accuracy (meaning 40% of returned results did not have the keywords in the title or anchor text respectively).
I'll get someone to do the same with allinachor: and report back, but I'm not optimistic.

I don't see one search result that goes by what you say.

When searching allintitle:[keyword] it will return only pages with that [keyword] in the title tag - no ifs and no buts - that's what it does.

Going by your posts I see there may be spelling issues! allinachor?  intitle? - none of your quoted phrases will return the search you're after.
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« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2008, 06:01:27 AM »

I've not explored allinachor (yet) but my team have been researching intitle: and inanchor: searches. Going through the returned results manually we've found them to be returning less than reliable results - about 60% accuracy (meaning 40% of returned results did not have the keywords in the title or anchor text respectively).
I'll get someone to do the same with allinachor: and report back, but I'm not optimistic.

I don't see one search result that goes by what you say.

When searching allintitle:[keyword] it will return only pages with that [keyword] in the title tag - no ifs and no buts - that's what it does.

Going by your posts I see there may be spelling issues! allinachor?  intitle? - none of your quoted phrases will return the search you're after.

Does allinchor need more twiking?
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« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2008, 08:37:59 AM »

Dan was not talking about allinanchor but referring to what stupha had to say.



I've not explored allinachor (yet) but my team have been researching intitle: and inanchor: searches. Going through the returned results manually we've found them to be returning less than reliable results - about 60% accuracy (meaning 40% of returned results did not have the keywords in the title or anchor text respectively).
I'll get someone to do the same with allinachor: and report back, but I'm not optimistic.

I don't see one search result that goes by what you say.

When searching allintitle:[keyword] it will return only pages with that [keyword] in the title tag - no ifs and no buts - that's what it does.

Going by your posts I see there may be spelling issues! allinachor?  intitle? - none of your quoted phrases will return the search you're after.

Does allinchor need more twiking?
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2008, 03:07:39 PM »

I've not explored allinachor (yet) but my team have been researching intitle: and inanchor: searches. Going through the returned results manually we've found them to be returning less than reliable results - about 60% accuracy (meaning 40% of returned results did not have the keywords in the title or anchor text respectively).
I'll get someone to do the same with allinachor: and report back, but I'm not optimistic.

I don't see one search result that goes by what you say.

When searching allintitle:[keyword] it will return only pages with that [keyword] in the title tag - no ifs and no buts - that's what it does.

Going by your posts I see there may be spelling issues! allinachor?  intitle? - none of your quoted phrases will return the search you're after.

My hastily typed typos in the post aside, we conducted the test after meeting with a pro SEO consultant a few weeks ago who suggested we not use this method. Frankly, I was very positive about using these techniques and we had been using them for several keyword research projects. But after multiple test searches across just under 200 keywords over several niches, the results were as described above - no ifs and buts... ~40% of returned search results provided pages in the top 10 SERPs that did not include the keywords in the title or in the anchor respectively.
Searches for each xxxxx keyword were for:
intitle: xxxxx
inanchor: xxxxx
intitle:xxxxx and inanchor:xxxxx






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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2008, 03:38:17 PM »

Yes, you haven't read the initial post or mine correctly...

allinanchor:keyword          will only return searches with "keyword" in title. That's the way it is.


You're searching: inanchor: intitle: etc.... See the difference? all. That's why you're getting the wrong results.

I agree, if you search inanchor: or intitle: you'll get the results you say, but the correct searches are allinanchor: allintitle: etc...
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2008, 03:49:36 PM »

Yes, that's what I said in my original comment...
I've not explored allinachor (yet) but my team have been researching intitle: and inanchor: searches...
I'll be happy to report back what my team turns up for allintitle: and allinanchor: once they've had a chance to explore them. I just did a couple of quick searches with those and allintitle: returned all accurate results, but allinanchor: did not, but that's not close to enough results to get a decent picture and weed out any anomalies.
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2008, 04:03:36 PM »

I just did a couple of quick searches with those and allintitle: returned all accurate results,

It always does.

but allinanchor: did not,


I don't understand what you're expecting from the allinanchor: results?

You won't always see the "keyword/phrase" in the serps when using that command because it returns pages that have that keyword in the anchor text of links pointing to that page. What you then need to take into account is what Google class as anchor text! It isn't just the a href text that's being called: text anywhere on a page which has an external link to a site can (sometimes) be construed as the anchor.

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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2008, 04:13:11 PM »

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I don't understand what you're expecting from the allinanchor: results?

What I was expecting was to have a list of pages where the search term appeared within anchor text on those pages. So, every page returned should have an anchor/link in the html which includes the search term. That seems a logical extrapolation of the nature of returned results from allintitle:

What you're describing is entirely different and to be honest seems less useful, nevertheless interesting for competitive research.
I appreciate the clarification.
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