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« on: November 10, 2006, 09:09:50 AM »

Apparantly Google is about to drop .com sites from it's searches in favour of .co.uk sites.

I would welcome your comments on this please.
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« on: November 10, 2006, 09:09:50 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2006, 09:39:55 AM »

Personally i can't see it happening quite as dramatically as that.

I suspect that they are filtering results based on where their links are coming from to try and identify which country the site relates to.

ie. .com name and all links from other .com names possibly would'nt feature in google.co.uk index, unless it had .co.uk links aswell.

Otherwise all they will do is make a .com extension country specific, which it is'nt really.
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2006, 09:42:33 AM »

I must admit I can't see it happening, but then again if it did then I'd be more than happy Smiley

Most of my competitors went the .com route and I've always stuck with .co.uk for my uk sites.... So bring it on!

Cheers,

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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2006, 09:53:07 AM »

Well if you get WPW news E-mails Chris is making a big deal out of this news. Hence my post.
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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 09:55:31 AM »

Seems a little odd doesn't it?  After all isn't Google's function to find sites according to the search terms entered, regardless of the URL address?
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« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2006, 10:27:04 AM »

Hi Tamaloo nice to see you back here again.

Not really -people often make the mistake of thinking that google or any SE locates its end results by using algorythms based on links in - content etc - they also use the English language. People forget that last year Google employed hundreds of students to do manual searches and relate search terms to actual sites. If- a big IF as I think may be happening is that Google UK may be getting some form of Autonomy then it is quite feasable for the Algs to be altered in favour of .co.uk's.
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« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2006, 11:00:48 AM »

Google needs to be careful here. Their job is to display the most relevant results regardless of what tld a site is using. If people don't get relevant results they would (should) go elsewhere.)

If they are dropping sites based purely on the fact that its a .com, its a big mistake.

Lets say for example my office based business ran solely on a .com domain name, lets say the .co.uk was taken and parked by Mr A.N.Other.

Someone searchs for my company name using google.co.uk and the site does'nt show up because its a .com?

Madness if that did / is happening....

I'd like to see examples of this happening so i can take a closer look....
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« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2006, 11:21:35 AM »

Ash - No I am sorry, for once I'll have to dissagree with you :roll:
It's not Googles job to produce the best results for the Search Engines.

That is the job of the web designer and the SEO/SEM guy.

In fact Google has been playing more on the side of relying on third parties views of a site than by it's own algs - DMOZ 1st now Wikipedia -Google trusted what DMOZ Editors thought of the site by including it in their Directory. Now gooog loves wiki and no way does Google produce good results based on SEO - Links to??  Yes Yes Yes -SEO No No No

I'll go get one to prove my point. Back in a mo.

Right I'm back go to Google UK and search Right to Buy
This peice of crap is on page one
www.proviser.com/mortgage_centre/special/right_to_buy.html?L
Now please check those tags and tell me why it is listed?? It's a turkey - absolute CRAP - but it has massive links.
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« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2006, 11:37:21 AM »

Debate is always health.

But IMO it is Googles job to provide relevant results, which is why they are continually changing their algo's to try and produce better, more accurate results.

If the results became irrelevant people would go elsewhere for their searches, MSN, yahoo, ask etc.

I was looking for an example of a .com that drops out of the searches when the search uk function is enabled, that one stays.

IMO it is Google job to determine that the site you highlight should'nt be there and provide a better relevant result. I'm not saying they do a good job of this by the way!
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 11:54:27 AM »

Yes but Ash, look at that site I put up - go to its tags - for goodness sake have you ever seen more spamming, more misspelt keywords in your life??? :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 12:05:13 PM »

Quote from: "ctabuk"
Apparantly Google is about to drop .com sites from it's searches in favour of .co.uk sites.

I would welcome your comments on this please.

The Nazis! They cannot force me to put a .co.uk on my site. I don't even have a .co.jp

Ve vill fight zees Gestapo.

Ah heck, on the other hand, I'll just go have another glass of wine and forget about it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2006, 01:47:05 PM »

The recent situation for UK dot.coms has been very volatile. I'm tracking 4 UK dot.com sites that are UK hosted. Some days the sites are no.1's and 2s, other they slip to the 30s and 40s and on others they disappear from the top 200.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2006, 02:07:48 PM »

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The recent situation for UK dot.coms has been very volatile. I'm tracking 4 UK dot.com sites that are UK hosted. Some days the sites are no.1's and 2s, other they slip to the 30s and 40s and on others they disappear from the top 200.

Sounds like a merry-go-round. Top, middle, bottom.
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2006, 02:40:37 PM »

I hope I am not going off topic here.

I would like to ask here how many use on their site instead of <html> this <html lang="en-gb"> for HTML docs or for XHTML docs <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en-gb" lang="en-gb">?

As you might already know, in accessibility it is a requirement to define the language of the html/xhtml dos as described above, and for sure you know that Google has setup an extra search for accessible sites, and I only guess that they might have add that requirement in the normal search too, as it is anyway a pure semantical and correct markup issue.

Therefore, I think it would worth to make an experiement, as it cannot not hurt trying, and see if that makes any difference in the SERPS.

It will be a little piece though, for boosting in the accessible search anyway.

So you can only profit doing that. Or? Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2006, 02:56:19 PM »

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...other they slip to the 30s and 40s.
Could it be that it has something to do with Google's -30 penalty?
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