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« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2008, 09:35:10 AM »

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You simply write text based on your keywords, add your homepage and hey presto you have a related link.

SEO/SEM is a full time job, you have to grab all opportunities.
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« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2008, 11:17:16 AM »

So basically, what your saying is, check each alert, and if its a blog, or a directory type site, get a link on it, and thats all there is to it?

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« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2008, 11:52:10 AM »

Yes, because each link is potentially 'keyword, anchor text based.' I think ne's got it, the rain in spain
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« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2008, 12:00:34 PM »

@Nobby - essentially Google has already told you that the page is highly relevant to the term you want to rank for so by posting a link in the comment you are establishing a highly relevant link. But what about nofollow david? Most sites i come across do use it on un-monitored external links now...
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« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2008, 12:12:51 PM »

nofollow links will (should) not pass any pagerank from site-to-to etc with Google... but it doesn't mean they ignore the anchor text. The weighting of the anchor text may be different to a followed link with the same page, but I've seen nofollow link anchor text's helping with rankings!

Regardless of what anyone says about nofollow, it's a grey area and it's standard isn't fully implemented as some would would like to believe.
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« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2008, 12:29:55 PM »

1. Add alerts to you keywords
2. check the emails that show up, get links on as many of the results as possible
3. Rinse / repeat

Why didn't you say so in the first place  lol
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« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2008, 12:38:20 PM »

I've done some experimenting on the nofollow thing, might have told some of you before but for the benefit of others...

I added a page to one of my domains which was completely orphaned (not linked to from anywhere). Then i added links to this page in about a dozen nofollow blog posts - meaning the only avenue into this page for the SE spiders was nofollow links. I used some really unique link text so i could monitor positions as well.

After several weeks the page had not been indexed in Google, Yahoo or MSN. When searching using the unique keyword i found nearly all the blog comment pages and a few forums where i'd been discussing the experiment - but no page!

This is what the Google results look like for the keyword: Google Search - "professor van billy winkle". This is a search from today and the page is still not returned for the search despite having a few links to that page with that anchor text. The page is also not in the index. So my conclusion from this experiment was that Google really doesnt follow nofollow links or acknowledge the anchor text, just like Matt Cutts said!

However, i have seen nofollowed links coming up in GWT so WTF!!?!!? There's a thought that Google might "turn them off" to find some new content, check if your site is using them etc...

Another result from the test was Yahoo and MSNs' reaction. MSN still havent indexed the page but Yahoo have! So they definitely do follow nofollow links, sometimes or maybe all the time!!
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« Reply #22 on: November 24, 2008, 12:52:03 PM »

Yahoo ignore them that's for sure Matt.

But testing the anchor text thing is flawed in your example. Yes Google were nofollowing the link, but it doesn't mean they ingored the anchor text - they just didn't follow and index the orphan page.

If the page was indexed and you threw some unique anchor text nofollow links at it from very strong sites.... Let's say "heat pumps" is the main target word... then put some no follows with "heaty heat pumps" or just something silly that isn't on your site anywhere. If the site with the nofollow link is strong enough you'd soon rank for "heaty heat pumps". Then looking at the google cache of that search you'd see "heaty" appears in links pointing to that site.    (that's my experience and I've seen it multiple times and what you've also seen in GWT - such as technorati links etc)

I've also used nofollow sites like faves[dot]com and ppnow (when it exsisted) to speed up indexing, and it does work to some extent. Remember Google will tell you what they want you to believe in the campaign against spam.
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« Reply #23 on: November 24, 2008, 02:07:12 PM »

True, it did occur to me that nofollow might have its own metric. All nofollows are equal, but some are more equal than others, if you catch my drift!?
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« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2008, 03:56:58 PM »

Well, back onto the topic, the google alerts, ive now sifted through some 100 alert emails, rather time consuming, and so far ive only found barely a handful of places i could post a link. Is this how it is supposed to go?

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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2008, 07:48:53 PM »

Dont worry, i think i have figured it out, those kws are just a bit poor on the results front, i tried one from a more widely appealing site and got much better results.  Grin
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« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2008, 08:59:03 PM »

Alert ctabuk it's now raining in spain, your words didn't go down the drain....He's southern what you expect


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« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2008, 09:02:41 PM »

Alert ctabuk it's now raining in spain, your words didn't go down the drain....He's southern what you expect 

A decent poet woulda got 'East Northamptonshire' to rhyme.  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2008, 09:24:56 PM »

Alert ctabuk it's now raining in spain, your words didn't go down the drain....He's southern what you expect 

A decent poet woulda got 'East Northamptonshire' to rhyme.  Grin

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Sometimes his posts are rather dire, to be a webmaster he does aspire
Reading this and reading that, tell him three times he rolls like that
You asked to rhyme East Northhamptonshire... I fear not, of your posts I do tire.

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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2008, 09:33:13 PM »

Sometimes his posts are rather lame,
they often leave the readers in pain,
this poet likes to mix it up,
but often finds out hes the butt,
perhaps in time he will grow and shine,
for now please admins, keep him in line.


Not bad for a self confessed poetry idiot.  Grin



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