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« on: May 31, 2009, 09:49:12 AM »

Do you guys think it is worth the time spent creating a site, generating a traffic to it (say, 50 hits a day), giving it a lovely design and then selling it on for someone else to take on? How much do you think that you would be able to sell that site on for? I know that's a bit vague but it would be good to get your thoughts as I'm sure there are people out there who don't want to/can't do the work of setting up a site or designing it or generating traffic and want to buy a website that they can run with but not sure how much these people pay. I've been on websites that are website marketing places (like ebay) but would be good to get your thoughts.
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« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2009, 01:02:25 PM »

I'm sorry to be picky here, but "hits" is not a good term to use when discussing traffic. For example, if you put 50 pictures on a single page and that page was viewed one time the web tracking program would record 51 hits - one for the page and 50 for the graphics.

What I'm sure you meant was 50 unique visitors a day. "Uniques" are a better barometer of site traffic, and good stat packages like Google Analytics automatically filter out search engine and most bot visits from people visits.

Another metric you should include in your valuation calculation is estimated search traffic. What you want to do is pick the top 2 or 3 KW's for that site and see how much traffic those KW's generate on a daily basis, then compare that to the total unique visits per day.

Why is that an important metric to ad? If the daily estimated search traffic for those KW's is 15,000 a day then 50 unique visitors is not that much. To me, that makes the site far less valuable. But if the daily estimated KW searches is 150 per day that makes the site more valuable.

The last metric - and the most important - is conversions. A conversion might be completing a sale, filling out a form and requesting more info, signing up for a newsletter, clicking on banner ads, or other "take action" points on a web site. After all, a site that generates traffic but doesn't convert is essentially worthless.

In the end, even if you have a site with decent traffic and conversions I think it would be hard to sell, especially in this economy. You need to be willing to carry the site for a long time and look at many distribution channels other than eBay (and factor out visits from those other channels from your daily unique visitor stats!).

If you do this you should find a way to monetize the site for yourself while you're trying to sell it, even if that was is by putting a few Google ads on the site. I don't think your idea is a bad one at all, I just think that you need to further that idea and come up with a good business plan before you enact it. You might find that the price you want to sell a site for does not even come close to the time, effort, and money you put into it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2009, 10:09:32 PM »

Indeed, getting the money back for the time I put into the project is what I'm looking into. Thanks for your thoughts, HHI!
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2009, 07:03:20 AM »

Would seem to me that if you are smart enough to find a niche, build a site, write the content and grab relevant traffic, then you should be monetizng that site for yourself and making a nice tidy long term proft for yourself.

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2009, 08:07:38 AM »

I agree. Hard to find the time to do it at the moment but I have a few ideas! If anyone is interested in partnering up on websites like this feel free to get in touch.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2009, 11:18:02 AM »

As a further response to Nobby's post, it would be good to get a list together of things to do when looking for a niche in which you could create a website. An obvious start would be:

Are sites on page 1 of google optimising it in their page title?
Do the most highly searched for keywords in that niche searched for enough?

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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2009, 02:33:18 PM »

I've created this site with the view to either monetise it or sell it:

http://www.kentmortgageuk.co.uk/

What would everyone say is the best way to monetise it? Google adwords cost for keywords such as "kent mortgage" is between £6-£8 but I know a site requires lots of traffic to get a decent return using Adsense. Would a better way be with some kind of financial affiliate scheme?
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2009, 04:10:13 PM »

I'd first start looking at building up content. Maybe add a blog and start posting valuable and relevant information. You'll need to give visitors a reason to visit the site and come back. At the moment the site just looks like a single holding page.

Monitising the site I'd say an affiliate scheme might be a good idea. I haven't had any experience of using adsense on a site so I'm not sure what the returns would be.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2009, 04:13:24 PM »

Yeah, certainly something I've been planning but thought I would get the site indexed at first (which have now done). Need to dedicate some time to turning this into a wordpress site and adding new articles.
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2009, 04:29:38 PM »

Adsense results vary wildely, i guess it all depends on what you call a good return. In the mortgage niche ads can pay pretty well, on the down side your specific niche is very localized, im not sure how much traffic you could get.

I have owned many adsense sites over the years, some have earned pretty well, other barely cover their own domain and hosting. I guess the beauty with adsense is, its very simple to add and likewise if its not working for you, quick to remove and try something else.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2009, 10:27:55 AM »

Have you tried monitising your hub pages? You can add adsense, amazon and ebay ads onto your pages. It might be worth a try as a starting point.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2009, 12:03:50 AM »

Yeah I've thought about it but not tried. They do get indexed quite quickly and I do get adsense clicks on hubpages. Could also use them for affiliate schemes too, like you say.

I got a click on my mortgage adsense and I got 54p for it whilst Adwords says it costs between £6 to £8 per click. Any reason why my Adsense revenue was so low? Was the ad clicked on just a low paying advert?
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2009, 08:40:03 AM »

As I say I'm not offay with the way adsense works but is the £6-£8 per click what the advert owner is paying for the adwords click while the 54p is your percentage of that click? I may be wrong but just my initial thought.
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2009, 08:53:04 AM »

That's right from past experience I would of thought that my percentage would of been higher but I don't have a huge amount of Adsense experience either.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2010, 10:36:24 PM »

What's everyone's thoughts on buying websites that you think you could improve in anyway and then selling it for a decent profit? Anyone on here done it? Are there enough opportunities are there? One way I would look to make a profit would be to buy a site that isn't optimised then optimise it and put a better design on it then sell it on. Just wondering if thats feasible.
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