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« on: July 27, 2009, 10:04:39 PM »

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If the major record labels are to believed, they lose millions of dollars due to YouTube pirates. But is this really the case? While anti-piracy outfits try to have all infringing music taken offline or have the audio on pirated YouTube clips disabled, the band Barcelona responded with a video thanking a video uploader for using their song.

Every day hundreds of thousands of clips are uploaded to YouTube, some of which use copyrighted music. Of course the major record labels argue that these illegal uploads are killing their profits as people buy less music when YouTube users add a track to a home made video.

Not everyone in the music business agrees with this assessment though. When the indie rock band Barcelona saw one of its latest tracks featured in a viral video with nearly a million views, they responded quite differently. They claim that the clip actually boosted their album sales and concert visits.
Kuroshio Sea featuring the Barcelona track

So, instead of demanding that YouTube pull the video, the band posted a response to the ‘Kuroshio Sea’ video on the site, thanking their new found fans and the uploader who posted the original video.

“We’re so flattered to learn that it features one of our songs called Please Don’t Go,” Barcelona’s lead singer Brian Fennell says in the video response.

“We want to let you know that it’s been affirming in the last week to watch in the iTunes store a correlation with the sales of our record ‘Absolutes’, growing in the rock charts as a result of having the song placed in the video,” drummer Rhett Stonelake added.
Barcelona’s response

Aside from the boost in record sales, the band says that they’ve also met some new fans who came to their concerts after seeing the video on YouTube. It is a great way of promoting music online, especially when it’s coupled to a great video.

Unfortunately for most artists, anti-piracy outfits such as the RIAA, BPI and IFPI are increasingly policing YouTube to get all copyrighted music taken off the site. One such artist to suffer recently is the unfortunate Calvin Harris, who clashed with the music industry lobby group BPI.

“IT’S MY I so HappyING SONG YOU ABSOLUTE BASTARDS,” Harris wrote on Twitter when he found out that YouTube had removed a clip he uploaded himself, following a copyright complaint from the BPI.

“I so Happy YOU ‘The BPI’ what have you ever done for anybody you useless shower of cunts,” he added. As if that wasn’t enough Harris labeled the BPI the “worst organization to ever walk the earth” and their online employees “massive retards.”

Full article:  http://torrentfreak.com/pirated-youtube-clip-boosts-bands-album-sales-090727/

This is the point i have made many times, youtube, p2p, bit torrent, friends swapping some tracks, shops playing radios etc, all help PROMOTE music and artists, the evidence is there to be seen. The problem we have is the media organizations would have you believe the opposite is true. Many of these huge companies have more than a finger in the big news companies, and as such the anti piracy message continues to be BOOMED out, even when it conflicts with the facts.
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 07:50:05 AM »

LOL @Harris
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 08:30:28 AM »

Well the proof of the pudding is in the pie on that one!  Cool

I was of the belief that Youtube was costing artists money based on my own use of the website. I use it prolifically to listen to music which I never buy. However, i do go to more concerts, buy more itunes and (very occasionally) buy CDs based on what Ive heard online. But that's mainly because the sound quality is too awful and I eventually get annoyed with it and pick up a proper copy.

Now if we could only make itunes cheaper!
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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2009, 05:22:22 PM »

Here in the US we pay 99 cent per tune which is not that bad. I would rather pay that than have to buy the album just for one song. Could they lower that, yes. Will they? No I know of people here that have 1000's of tunes on their ipods plus probably have more in their account.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2010, 05:35:55 PM »

Tom Robinson, of the Tom Robinson Band is a supporter of file sharing as well as being a working musician.

He claims he's made more money through donations on his website in the last few years than he has over 30+ years of being screwed by the music industry.

And would little boots have got her record deal without youtube?
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2010, 10:22:51 AM »

Yeah Dave, i see examples almost weekly of artists steadily moving to embrass music sharing in various forms, all the while the middle men music cartel continue to try and sue everyone and everything. Just today there is a another artists using Bittorrent to help rekindle her career:


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Techno Diva Billie Ray Martin has uploaded two exclusive free remixes to Mininova, hoping to revitalize interest in her work. The tracks are part of an upcoming remix album set to be released later this year, but are already available on BitTorrent today.

billie rayBillie Ray Martin chalked up a few hits in the past two decades, including collaborations with late 80’s dance group S’Express.

Billy Ray has been remixed by some big names including Junior Vasquez, David Morales, BT, Roger Sanchez and Todd Terry. By embracing BitTorrent and giving away two exclusive remixes, she hopes to reach out to a new audience.

“The reason why I chose this path is as a path to generating renewed attention to my stuff,” Billie Ray told TorrentFreak.

“I’ve been keeping up to date with online developments over the years and frankly I find it more fun than chasing indie labels around, waiting for someone to sign you for no money. It’s more fun to put out my own stuff and part of that is making sure people get to hear it.”

The remixes released on Mininova are part of the forthcoming ‘Crackdown Project’ which will kick off officially on the March 6th at the release party in Berlin.

In the past year Billie Ray has been sending out some free music to blogs, through which she received a lot of positive feedback, but this is the first time she has used BitTorrent to distribute her music.

This doesn’t mean that her music wasn’t available on BitTorrent already, of course. When we asked her how she felt about these unauthorized copies that are floating around, Billie Ray said: “It happens, so I can’t grumble really. I make some money from selling that work still so it’s all good. It’s all pocket-money these days.”

Unlike many other artists, Billie Ray doesn’t seem to have much faith in the new (legal) music streaming services that have surfaced in recent years, labeling them as rip-offs.

“Things like Spotify and Last.fm I do not wish to support. They give free unlimited streaming without paying the artists. They say they do, but they don’t,” she said, adding that she made less than $4 from these services so far. “I think they’re killing music off for good.”

She is not the first artist to complain about the revenue generated by Spotify. Lady Gaga has been complaining bitterly as well, although the labels might be to blame for this, since they tend to keep a big chunk of the money.

From her release on BitTorrent she’s not making any more direct money, that’s for sure, but seeing thousands of downloads in a week might cheer her up a little. Being heard, whether it’s through BitTorrent or Spotify, will eventually benefit artists in the long run.

http://torrentfreak.com/techno-diva-loves-bittorrent-hates-spotify-100201/
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 05:46:21 PM »

I have always believed that the use of music in YT video promotes a band. If I hear a track I like in a video, I want to find out more about that artist/band, and there's a good chance I'll then buy the album.

I agree this copyright issue is a lie. Metallica found this out when they attacked file sharing and the like in the early days. They soon backed down when they were shown the truth.

And just look at Nine Inch Nails, they release material for free and even encourage users to abuse it and distort it into something else. They then support that music as much as they would if it were their own. They are leaders in this and they've gained a lot of fans because of their embracing of it.

That's one thing artists and the industry completely overlook; people love the music, not the business. If you promote and discuss the business over and above the artistry, you'll loose support quickly.

The only reason labels are crying about it is because they know they are doomed. There is now the freedom and ability for artists to market and sell directly and without the control or censorship of labels. I hope it continues as I'd love nothing more than to see the controlling labels disintegrate and artists increasingly promoting themselves with complete freedom in artistry and image.
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